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    Moab threatened with closure - 9 MILLION ACRES!

    more info: http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=824178




    http://blogs.4wheeloffroad.com/65633...ver/index.html

    Congress to Vote on H.R. 1925 America's Red Rock Wilderness Act This Thursday!

    Moab Might Be Gone Forever!

    Posted Today 01:35 PM by 4WOR Web Editor

    Filed under: Miscellaneous, Jason Gonderman



    The Chairman of the Subcommittee on National Parks, Forests and Public Lands of the U.S. House Committee on Natural Resources has scheduled a hearing on October 1 to consider H.R. 1925, America's Red Rock Wilderness Act of 2009.

    This legislation -- which will ban off-highway vehicle (OHV) access to public lands to those who live and recreate in
    Utah -- was introduced by New York Representative Maurice Hinchey.


    However, not a single Representative from Utah is supporting H.R.1925.

    Specifically, H.R. 1925 would designate more than nine million more acres as federally protected "Wilderness," and directly affect the Moab, San Rafael Swell and Chimney Rock areas (to name a few) in Utah.

    These popular OHV areas represent some of the most important remaining OHV recreation areas in Utah, and are some of the most popular with responsible OHV riders. The proposed Wilderness designation would also make the land off limits to ATV riders, mountain bikers and horseback
    riders.

    Coming on the heels of the recently enacted Omnibus Public Land Management Act, which closed 2 million acres of public lands, this vast Wilderness bill will take away additional recreation opportunities currently enjoyed by local residents and visitors alike.

    The AMA needs your help now to stop H.R. 1925. The fastest way to reach your U.S. Representative is to call them. You can find contact information for your elected officials by entering your zip code on AmericanMotorcyclist.com, clicking on "Rights," then "Issues and Legislation." Additionally, a prewritten e-mail is available for you to send to your Representative immediately by following the "Take
    Action" option and entering your information.

    Please contact your Representative right away and urge them to oppose H.R. 1925.

    It's VERY VERY SIMPLE! Just click here...


    http://capwiz.com/amacycle/issues/al...ertid=14061961

    ... and you will be taken to the AMA's (American Motorcycle
    Association) website. Enter your zip code and a letter will be sent to your representative urging them to vote NO on this bill.
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    why do people in new york even have a say?

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    email sent... it says american MOTORCYCLE association

    is there another one going that is related closer to what we do?

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    I sent one through the generator and one personally through email.

    You can find your representative here: https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
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    BTW - the mirror of this bill in the senate is S.B. 799. Take a minute to write your senators too.

    http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...m.cfm?State=TX
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    Quote Originally Posted by J Cooper View Post
    email sent... it says american MOTORCYCLE association

    is there another one going that is related closer to what we do?
    no. you can't put a wilderness area around a road (ie anything that's currently legal for our rigs to be on in public land in UT). This would basically just take dirtbikes and ATVs off of trails (ie hiking trails, horseback trails, mtb trails). If they'd put a rider on there that kicks the horses off I'd send them a check
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    damnit... if everyone is leaving i want my original 15 back... i dont wanna be left with these tools

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    Quote Originally Posted by uglyota View Post
    no. you can't put a wilderness area around a road (ie anything that's currently legal for our rigs to be on in public land in UT). This would basically just take dirtbikes and ATVs off of trails (ie hiking trails, horseback trails, mtb trails). If they'd put a rider on there that kicks the horses off I'd send them a check
    so this does not threaten the area that 4wheel drive vehicles would be driving on? it is just taking dirtbikes and atvs off of actual hiking trails?

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    well they're probably technically multi-use trails right now, but definitely not roads (even 4wd roads).
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    gotcha

    either way i dont think they should convert it, especially if no one in Utah even has a problem with it.

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    It may not directly affect us right now, but it only makes it easier to pass further legislation later which could.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mudtoy67 View Post
    It may not directly affect us right now, but it only makes it easier to pass further legislation later which could.
    exactly

    this kind of goes along with this... have been meaning to post it.

    I grew up on the beach so I see this as a big deal

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    Don't Let Them Steal Your Beach
    Protect Public Beach Access in Texas

    On November 3
    Vote For Proposition #9


    People have filed suit (Severence Vs. Patterson) to limit your access and turn public beaches private in Texas.

    "The constitutional amendment to protect the right of the public, individually and collectively, to access and use the public beaches bordering the seaward shore of the Gulf of Mexico"

    http://www.votefortexasbeaches.org/GotBeachAccess.htm

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    Email sent. Never been to Moab, but wouldn't want the opportunity taken from me.
    I may not be able to run with the big dogs, but I can limp with the pack.

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    Got this in an e-mail

    Dear Ed:
    Thank you for contacting me with your support for H.R. 1925, the America's Red Rock Wilderness Act of 2009. I appreciate the opportunity to address this matter.

    As you may know, H.R. 1925 would designate specific areas in Utah as components of the National Wildlife Preservation System (NWPS). President Lyndon Johnson created the NWPS in 1964 in order to "secure for the American people of present and future generations the benefits of an enduring resource of wilderness." This act helps preserve the listed wilderness areas by banning temporary roads, motor vehicles, motorized equipment or motorboats, landing of aircraft, other forms of mechanical transport, and no structures or installations within any protected areas. Currently, this bill has been referred to the House Committee on Natural Resources . Should I be called upon to vote on this matter, I will keep your support in mind.

    Again, thank you for contacting me on this matter. If I may be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to contact me.


    Sincerely,

    John Carter
    Member of Congress
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