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    Article about Uvalde in WSJ

    If anyone here knows Richard Jones, you can find any article concering the use of the Uvalde River and general OHV use on the front page of the Wall Street Journal. About a few weeks ago, he took one of the reporters on a trail ride to give him an idea about what we do. From what I hear, the article is not as positive as he would have hoped, but not all negative. I need to go out and get one, just letting ya'll know. Richard is very active in keeping Texas Rivers open for recreatioanal use and has done a helluva lot for the sport in Texas. So go pick one up and see what it says.
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    Rick is a good guy, Lynda and I met him up in Bandera for a TMTC meeting. He is a Toyota guy and is very dedicated to keeping the river beds open to motorized vehicles
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    here it is if you were too lazy to go buy one......
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    text from WSJ

    Off-Road Vehicles Now Ply the Waters Of Southwest
    Texas --- It's Fun and It's Legal, for Now, But It
    Annoys Ranchers And Environmentalists

    UVALDE, Texas -- On a blistering spring afternoon,
    Richard Jones pointed his Ford Bronco toward the
    Nueces River and stepped on the gas.

    The truck plowed through several feet of fast-running
    water and climbed up a mud ledge on the opposite bank.
    Its oversized tires kicked up fist-sized stones.

    Bouncing wildly in the back seat of the Bronco's open
    cab, Javier Gallardo pointed to a Toyota pickup truck
    behind them. "Check it out, headlights under water,"
    he said, grinning.



    Most owners of pickup trucks and sport-utility
    vehicles never venture far off road. But Mr. Jones, 37
    years old, and a growing circle of enthusiasts are
    taking theirs up the river. With other off-roading
    opportunities drying up, publicly owned riverbeds like
    the Nueces are becoming popular Texas thoroughfares.
    That has neighboring landowners, environmentalists and
    some state officials cringing.

    In eight hours, Mr. Jones and a convoy of 13 trucks
    covered about a mile and a half along the wide gravel
    banks, over near-vertical ledges and through the
    narrow river. Two drivers broke their trucks' drive
    shafts; two suffered broken axles. One truck's
    transmission system failed in the middle of the river,
    requiring three others to hook up towlines and pull it
    out. A smaller, all-terrain vehicle, or ATV, along for
    the ride, lost a wheel.

    "It's just a thrill," says Ric Mansanarez, a
    29-year-old professional truck driver from San
    Antonio, whose 1984 Chevy Blazer navigated the river
    relatively unscathed.

    Not to everyone. "Bud Light and Pennzoil -- those are
    the most popular containers" on the river, says Sky
    Lewey, a cattle rancher and an employee at the Nueces
    River Authority. State biologists are just starting to
    gather environmental-impact data. Officials worry that
    driving loosens gravel along banks, making it
    difficult for critical plant life to grow. Exhaust
    fumes, leaking lube oil and other automotive fluids
    may also contaminate the river, and fish populations
    could be endangered. The greenthroat darter is a tiny,
    minnow-like fish that lives in shallow, running water.
    "If you're driving in every riffle . . . you're
    putting those critters at risk for sure," Mrs. Lewey
    says.

    Local sheriffs and game wardens can ticket speeders or
    drunk drivers on the state's rivers, many of which are
    shallow or dry up completely part of the year. But
    they can't chase drivers out. "This really is the last
    frontier," says Larry D. McKinney, director of aquatic
    resources at the Texas Parks & Wildlife Department.

    In some parts of the country, national and state park
    officials are beginning to close off many trails and
    canyons that have become popular with off-roaders. As
    in many states, Texas rivers are generally considered
    public property, even when they run through private
    land. But no agency has been charged with regulating
    vehicle traffic in them. The result: The Nueces in
    southwest Texas and a handful of other rivers are
    becoming congested, off-road trails.

    "The glory of it is that it's legal," says Shawn
    Pagan, 35, a computer engineer from Houston who has
    spent about $40,000 on his Jeep Wrangler.

    Along many stretches of the Nueces, the gravel banks
    and its riverbed -- which is visible through the clear
    water -- are combed with tire tracks. The river
    authority estimates that hundreds of vehicles crawl up
    and down the 108-mile-long river on some busy summer
    days.

    Off-road enthusiasts spend thousands of dollars
    customizing and driving vehicles that are specially
    modified to churn through muddy trails and crawl over
    ledges and rocks. ATVs -- essentially four-wheeled
    motorbikes -- are also popular for such treks.

    Besides his Ford Bronco, Mr. Jones also dotes on a
    maroon, 1969 Toyota Land Cruiser. He has put about
    $10,000 into that truck, adding jumbo tires and a
    protective wraparound roll cage in the cab. Specially
    modified wheel axles improve traction over boulders
    along rocky banks and through several feet of water.
    Driving over the rocks and crags is "mostly slow,
    lumbering stuff," he says, perfect for "challenging
    the driver and vehicle."

    During Mr. Jones's most recent outing, his convoy,
    primarily from San Antonio, passed another group, a
    caravan of six off-road vehicles that had driven an
    hour on the highway to access the Nueces. "We'll drive
    around, get in the water, have a few beers, relax,"
    says Lane Walker, a 22-year-old public-services
    employee from Devine, Texas.

    Crossing a stretch of river during the drive, Mr.
    Jones, an official at Southwest Texas Junior College,
    dropped his truck off a steep bank into two feet of
    water. Following a few trucks behind, Joey Aleman, 26,
    maneuvered his 1987 Chevrolet Silverado slowly into
    the river, leaning out over his rearview mirror to
    watch for signs of deep water.

    "Where it's green, you don't want to go," he says
    reaching around with his free hand to quiet two
    yelping boxers in the back of his cab.

    Mr. Aleman, who works in an auto paint shop in San
    Antonio, bought his used truck for about $6,500 and
    says he has spent about $20,000 modifying it. The
    letters "Mud Patrol" are stenciled across the top of
    the windshield. He added 38-inch "Super Swamper" tires
    and a 15-inch suspension, jacking the floor of the cab
    almost four feet above the ground.

    The group eventually arrived at an abandoned bridge.
    Several trucks attempted to climb the face of a steep
    granite ledge along the riverbank. Carlos Mansanarez,
    38, and Ric's brother, leaned on his horn and stepped
    on the gas. His Chevy Blazer lurched halfway up before
    shearing its rear drive shaft, which powers the back
    wheels. A minute later, the truck broke one of its
    forward axles, which connect the front wheels.

    Mr. Jones hooked up a towline and pulled the truck the
    rest of the way up, accidentally slamming into another
    rock ledge and crinkling his own front bumper. Repairs
    are part of the fun. "There usually is not this much
    carnage," Mr. Jones said, hauling out three plastic
    toolboxes full of wrenches and sockets. But, he added,
    "this is what they want to do. This is what they
    expect."

    Last year, a group of property owners failed to win
    approval of legislation that would have given the
    river authority power to restrict traffic on the
    river. They will try again early next year when the
    state legislature gathers for its biennial session.

    Some off-roaders have attacked those efforts as a
    broader attempt to restrict access to the river. But
    Tim Lewey, Sky's husband, sees it differently. "Access
    to this river is an important issue, but I'd like to
    see them access it in canoes, kayaks, on foot or on
    horseback," he says, adding that he can hear the
    traffic from his ranch house a quarter mile from the
    river. "Anything but vehicles."

    Off-road drivers say the environmental damage they
    cause on the riverbed is light compared with pesticide
    runoff from farmland. Years of grazing by cattle have
    done much more damage, they contend.

    Alan Hatcher, a 42-year-old teacher in Dallas, spent a
    weekend earlier this month driving his modified Suzuki
    Samurai off-road along the Llano River in central
    Texas with eight others. "There were no Exxon Valdez
    oil spills out there, and that's what we get accused
    of," he says. "Have you ever looked around a boat
    marina on a lake? There's oil all over the place. I
    don't see how we're doing anything worse."
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    I read the article earlier when I got the paper and I wasnt too enthused about the vibe I got from it. It didn't outright say that offroaders were a bunch of drunk hicks that go around tear-assing around rivers, but didnt give us much of a defense other than we're better than boats in a marina and cows who can't control their bowels.

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    Originally posted by redcagepatrol
    He is a Toyota guy...
    oh really fool, then why does it say they were riding in his FORD BRONCO???

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    Originally posted by bburris


    oh really fool, then why does it say they were riding in his FORD BRONCO???
    it also mentions IF YOU READ THE ARTICLE that he owns a 69 land cruiser.... now get down and 8==>

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    I got bored and didn't really care to read that far (ADD is a bitch)

    if he was a true toyota guy then he wouldn't need another trail vehicle since his cruiser can leap tall buildings in a single bound and outrun speeding bullets

    so why don't you go eat a B I G F A T C O C K Adam

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    The Toyota is just too good for a waterbed, he had to take out something that would be challenged... Thats what it is
    Scott, FTAC '99
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    ahhhh...I see.... BTW I traded my EB in for a 1st gen toyota truck... I should have it running by the end of the month and I know it'll be more capable tyhan the bronco would EVER be, even with the 235's I plan to leave on it.

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