You can't tell me that dropping RPMs ~13% on the exact same truck won't make me get better mileage. You of all people should know that one truck doesn't get the same mileage as a similar truck that comes right off the assembly line after it....
All the trucks that get good mileage on TDS.com have 3.55s. VERY FEW people with 4.10s get above 15, but most people with 3.55s get 17+.
Originally posted by Chadnutz
...Don't be so negative.
you'll probably spend 90 bucks of that 100 you'll be saving on u bolts, fluid, and such.
hope that 10 bucks gets ya far
...
Doesn't bother me anymore.
If I can pick up 15 mpg and I drive 20,000/year...
That is 1333.33 gallons at $1.37 gallon - $1826/year
17 mpg - $1612/year.
I save $200
I'm almost convinced but I sure would like to drive 73 or so at the same RPMs as 65 now...
im not saying dont do it....but its not worth messing with.....put some bigger tires on yours and dont worry about it. it will become a headache...nothing ever goes as well as it does on paper....
anyone else wanna speak up about the headaches they have had once they started modding their daily driver?
adam?
burbach?
brett?
austin?
dave?
doug k?
doug k?
freddy?
troy?
ect...ect...ect
its simply not wirth the hedache....to have to be worried all the time...is something i did not exactly like it was supposed to be....did the torque wrench i used actually work...did i check every nut and bolt...the list goes on and on....
Steven W
02 Dodge 2500
82 CJ-7 - sitting in a field...
"....Your theory is f*cked up like a football bat...."
chadnutz....NO ONE CARES WHAT THE DIESLE STOP HAS TO SAY...seems to me that you know nothing except what someone on a computer has to say.
if this is correct then why are you listing to anyone on that website anyway. just cause Joe Blow up in BFE says he gets 20 doesnt mean you will....hell he could be in totally diffrent conditions that you are....You of all people should know that one truck doesn't get the same mileage as a similar truck that comes right off the assembly line after it....
Steven W
02 Dodge 2500
82 CJ-7 - sitting in a field...
"....Your theory is f*cked up like a football bat...."
This is the last time I will defend that site...
POR - Filled with people who have been wheeling for years. They have torn apart their rigs and built new ones from the ground up. POR sprecialized in off roading. They are the authority in off roading.
TAMOR - A site with some wheelers that go to college and have learned stuff together on the way...
TDS - A site filled with Powerstroke owners. Not F-150s, Toyotas, Chevys, etc... People who rebuild their motors, people who make their own mods, people who install mods themselves, people who do everything they can to get your rig running again.
I have had so much more luck with that site because of the maturity level over there. No one bashes each other for piddly little **** like this. Those guys know their trucks. They log their trips and post all the data when they return right down to EGTs, Tranny Temps, head wind, tail wind, load, mpg. etc.... Why do you feel it necessary to belittle them when they know 1,000 times more about the truck in question than you ever will. Sure, there are some Powerstroke drivers on this forum, but how many of them actually worked on their trucks.
When you bash a site you don't even read just because it is on the internet then you are ripping away at the integrity of any other internet forum (POR, TAMOR). The beauty of the internet is that you can find a support group for any hobby, past time, or object. TDS.com is THE authority on Powerstrokes. Don't waste my time trying to bash it because you are just being ignorant.
chadnutz....the big question is this....why do you even post what you are thining about doing....especially if you dont want anyones input on the situation.....
and as much as i hate to say this and it pains me to do so, i agree with ryan....
Steven W
02 Dodge 2500
82 CJ-7 - sitting in a field...
"....Your theory is f*cked up like a football bat...."
I'm not a huge believer in Murphy's Law, and that seems to be the only argument against doing a swap. I spent a lot of time mulling over the details in my axle swap, and 30,000 miles later I have no complaints.
Things don't happen on accident, and there are ways to ensure that your project will go as planned. They're no secret, but perhaps the most important one is to do everything by the book. Have a nice torque wrench, check all the specs...
...and use that multi-thousand dollar education, and make a checklist. I say that if the axles pass a rigorous inspection -one that includes removal of the rear cover, drums, hubs, etc.- do it.Originally posted by StevenAg03
...is something i did not exactly like it was supposed to be....did the torque wrench i used actually work...did i check every nut and bolt...the list goes on and on....
but your a little more anal then chadnutz....(only used anal for lack of a better work...not derogatory)...like you said...you didnt jump right into it. and im sure you didnt do this in one weekend or probably a day for that matter....
Steven W
02 Dodge 2500
82 CJ-7 - sitting in a field...
"....Your theory is f*cked up like a football bat...."
As my lawyer/uncle said about the landlord that screwed me out of a few hundred dollars in deposit after my first senior year when I asked about suing the dikhead, "One day Jimmy, after you graduate, you'll take some clients out and drop at least that much on dinner, it just isn't worth ****ing with"Originally posted by Chadnutz
I save $200
Just sell a couple pairs of flat top knuckles on ebay, or quit drinking for a month (it really isn't that hard), or sell some plasma, do whatever, but 200 bones over the course of a year isn't diddly squat. It will be more sluggish around town, you'll have to reprogram/gear (however f*rd **** works) your speedo, waste a weekend, lose some of your towing ability. The truck will still pull 75-80 with the gears you have, just keep the tank full and drive the damn thing. It is pretty bad when flem "the jew" is telling you not to worry about the money...Just so you know chadnutz, I don't mean to come off as an ******* on this post, just failing to see the logic, and giving my honest opinion.
Boats and hoes
Stumble in to the liquor store
With a dollar-fifty for a bottle of wine,
I know just what I'm lookin for
Thunderbird will do just fine.
I'll add my opinion, and I assure you Chadnutz, I'm not trying to be a dickhead when I say this.
I have two vehicles from which to choose from for daily driving duties.
One is a Scout I picked up for $700 that I've lifted and done various modifications to. Granted, I wheel it, and It has seen quite a bit of abuse (i.e.-clayton, ok), but it is still a vehicle I drive on a normal basis. It squeaks, it rattles, rain leaks into it, The front axle makes some odd clicky noise I need to fix, the rear axle has a outer seal leak, the parking brake hasn't worked since Clayton, It's recently developed some power drain I haven't figured out yet, and something in the carb sounds like a turbocharger when I accelerate. This is choice number one.
My other option to drive daily is my camaro that I have modified mechanically that could compare to something from Monster Garage. It's been through an engine swap, tranny swap (auto to manual), electrical system that has been modified to rival that of a space shuttle, no where near stock suspension, fuel system, brakes, drivetrain, or cooling system. Although I drive it almost daily, it's still not free from trouble. I recently went on a trip known as the power tour. Before I could even make it on the trip (now pay close attention to this part) My REAR AXLE basically blew up. It was one I had bought and swapped in with 4.10 gears, all new bearings and seals. Wouldn't you know it, luckily I had access to the ORIGINAL axle from my car. I swapped it in and had NO PROBLEMS WITH IT the entire trip. My radiator on the other hand was a different story. It pretty much took a **** leaving Lake Charles, La. We ended up having to replace it in a Harrah's Casino parking lot before we could continue. Apparently running the electric water pump without coolant in it damaged it and It died about a week later, where the car now sits in my shop awaiting a new one to arrive from Jegs.
So these are my options for transportation. Believe me, if it were possible for me to have a truck that could be driven daily and tow vehicles, I wouldn't do a damn thing to it. Basically, what I'm trying to point out is leave the mother ****er alone.
"You know, this car is so fast, that giving Corvette owners this car, is kinda like giving an AK-47 to a pysch ward."
-Ron Fellows (Corvette C6R Team Driver)
Yea, won't you be driving the mazda most of the time when you get it going good. Got to be more fun than that ford. The only times you'll see the dodge around town is when its raining, it hasn't been driven in 2 weeks, or the jeep isn't working.
the whole idea of this is just stupid. i havent made a coment yet because i figured you would shutup after a few people have posted. but no you are doing your standard crap of saying something and if every damn person in the whole world doesnt agree with you you throw a little girly hissyfit. this isnt a new thing. but it is really getting old. i could give a rats ass if you do it. doesnt seem like it would save any money in my opinion but if it did get you 200 bones a year it will probably take a couple years for that to pay for itsself. fuel to and from the place of the swap. all the parts and fluids for the swap. hell just the time expense alone much exceeds 200 in one freaking week. i think you are retarded and you can kiss my hiney if that pisses you off.
I already said I'm almost convinced and I already told the guy I'd probably back out because I'd only save $200/year. Is it still necessary to flame me?
I asked for advice on getting the truck in the first place and most people said not to get it. Well I am damn glad I did get it. The only thing positive I got out of that entire thread was knowledge of the flywheel so I could talk him down on the price...
Ryan - I won't be driving the Mazda every day because I work every day and I didn't want to have to drive a lifted truck with big expensive ass tires to work every day.
I'm not going to post and then listen to what you guys say without giving my side of the argument. I don't idolize ya'll. I take what you have to say into consideration. I wasn't crying like a little bitch. I was questioning the logic but after making some calculations I understood.
Even the normal jack asses were polite in their responses...
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