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    Gcwr

    What is the GCWR for a one ton truck in Texas?

    20,000 lbs or 26,000 lbs?

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    depends on the truck. read what it says on your door.

    It truely depends on the weight of your truck - the 2wd single cab trucks with no bed can pull the most weight.

    If you had a truck that could pull the weight, it would be 26,000 lbs before you need a CDL
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    So if my GVWR is 9,000 and the trailer's is 20,000 as long as I dont exceed any axle rating, the truck rating, the trailer rating, or 26,000 I can tow it?

    Truck weighs 6,000 with me in it.

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    Texas doesn't care what it says on the door panel, they have certain weights for each tonnage of truck. I think a one ton is 9600 for single wheels, or 10000 for dually on the truck. Truck and trailer GVCW rating can be a max of 26500 lbs. Doesn't matter if you have that weight on it or not, just that its rated to carry it. With farm plates you get 36000 lbs or somethin really high like that. The biggest trailer you can legally pull with a 1 ton, normal plates, and no CDL would be one with 2 8000 lb axles. I hear you can get a manufactured trailer rated for a lower weight by having the little plate changed out. Big travel trailers and horse trailers are underrated by the manufacturer most times for this reason. Just licensing the trailer for a lower weight won't do it. I'm not sure how you'd go about lowering the rating on a home made trailer, maybe you can do something when you apply for title for it.

    Dually axles are rated at 10000 lbs. You can pull one legally with a half ton as long as the truck doesn't have too much weight on it. When they weigh you for overload ticket they can weigh each axle and one overweight will get a ticket, but most times they just weigh total, so don't piss em off.

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    On the txdot webside you could take a quiz and if the GCWR was over 26,000 you needed a CDL...

    20,000 + 9,000 = 29,000

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    my friend got a ticket for pulling an empty gooseneck that was rated for more than his F350 was rated for. (it was a dual-dual) They made him leave it on the side of the road.

    I looked at Dodge and the newest 1 ton trucks on the market can pull a max of 16,400lbs, meaning that the nameplate of the trailer that you are pulling cannot say more than 16,400 pounds. The website says that the gcvw cannot be more than 23,000lbs for that truck. (2wd reg cab)
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    Originally posted by Chadnutz
    On the txdot webside you could take a quiz and if the GCWR was over 26,000 you needed a CDL...

    20,000 + 9,000 = 29,000
    I'm pretty sure this is wrong. You need a class A or B, can't remember which. You only need a CDL when you areare COMMERCIALLY transporting objects, like for profit, in which case you also need to have commercial insurance, and keep a log book.

    So for your personal use, you just need to get a different license. Once you start charging money, (CHADNUTZ) you need a CDL.

    This is what my brothers friend told me that hotshots. Funny thing is he has a degree from A&M. Started off with a powerstroke, then got a medium duty, and now has something like a 14 liter 18 wheeler.
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    travel trailers fall under recreational use. Which is different.

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    Makes no sense but I seem to remember somethin about that. I guess just cause people who have no idea what they're doing are pulling them, they can do what they want.

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    Originally posted by eight
    Makes no sense but I seem to remember somethin about that. I guess just cause people who have no idea what they're doing are pulling them, they can do what they want.
    Yeah it really makes no sense at all. People are getting class 8 tractors titled as an RV. Really scarry when you see 75 year old grandma's behind one of those huge bus type RV's with a grand cherokee in tow.

    I'm going to email the dmv to try and figure this out.
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    farmer
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    A recreational vehicle that is driven for personal use. (i think we can fall under this one)

    yes you dont have to have a CDL. But you still need the proper license. A class A,B, or C non-CDL license.

    I read this outta the handbook.

    http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/ftp/forms/CDLhandbook.pdf

    page iii

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    give it to me , I'll drive it... class A CDL!
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    I called and it looks like I'd need a Class A CDL. Will that change my insurance? Will it increase the cost of a license?

    Thanks.

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    You don't really want a 8000 lb trailer with 8 tires to blow out. And yes your license would cost more buts its not a whole lot. I'll take a picture of a 3000 lb 30 ft trailer for you to copy. It'd need to be a little wider so figure 3500 lbs. Then you do a little math and you get 14000 lb capacity trailer + 9600 lb capacity truck - 6000 lb truck - 3500 lb trailer and you get = 14100 lb carrying capacity. So you could haul Mike's and Tate's broncos. And you hardly notice its there when its empty.

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    I've seen a trailer sitting somewhere for over a year and the deck is in poor shape and I want to speak with the owner and see if I can't work something out....

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