i don't know what's so bad about 'em. 6ply. 24/32's. they wear like iron. directional tread may not be a pro, but i wanted something for sand (maybe not anymore) and mud. an all-terrain would have been my best bet for that type of terrain, but i don't buy all-terrains anymore. for $155/tire, i couldn't pass while regular price is $290/tire.