I'm gonna drive my jeep stock for another trip or so before I decide exactly what I want, and I'm open to suggestions from you guys. So far I think I want to keep my stock gears (4.10) and run 33s, so I need some kinda lift. What do you think I should do?
I'll respect your opinion a lot more if you actually own a jeep (with the exception of Busa, even thogh he swears by toyota)
i have a set of coilovers that would be perfect for that thing. i'll give you a good price on them.
this sounds like the reincarnation of a white YJ
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way to step up, Mandi!
I hope the Jeep guys will be helpful with this, but coming from a Toyota guy, I think if you want to prevent having to redo things later on, you should start with a springover and shackle reversal, and shackles to make the rearend match.
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Last edited by uglyota; 09-23-2004 at 04:09 PM.
Originally Posted by Shaggy
I think a spring over with stock springs would be fine for you to run 33s. Your stock axles will still like you and if you don't let the springover turn in to the drunken cluster**** that they sometimes are you'll be fine. If you have the money to spend on it you may buy a spring over kit from someone like Rubicon Express. It's p/n 5015 if you want to check it out... It may just give you an idea of what vital parts you're going to need to do the lift.
Just don't let Scott set your pinion angle.
You'll need a slip yoke eliminator. I'd say avoid the hack and tap kinds, but if you're not too worried about strength or wheeling it hard then that could be ok. A new driveshaft will follow from the SYE, but you can get a pretty good combo deal from Tom Woods on a SYE and driveshaft. Your stock front shaft will be fine.
Throw your track bars away, they do nothing for you. Get some decent shocks for it and you should maintain a pretty decent ride. You'll want longer sway bar disconnects, so it may be a good time to upgrade to some JKS quick disconnects or another brand of your preference.
You may also want to take this time to put decent steering on it. You can get a copy of my or Matt Conlee's setup and it will give you much better steering response than your stock steering working at more angle than intended. You may also just upgrade to Grand Cherokee steering with slightly better geometry (I believe) and beefier tie rod ends.
Any questions about any of this terminology and it can easily be explained further. I'm slightly familiar with Wranglers, so I'm more than happy to help.
Last edited by bburris; 09-23-2004 at 04:29 PM.
If you spring over it will be cheaper but too much lift for 33s more like 35s. I would get a lift around 4", get good springs do some research I have Superlift springs and rancho 9000s shocks. Save your old springs or sell them. They are worth something but you might want to spring over later and reuse them or go back to stock to sell it. You will want a SYE (slip yoke eliminator) kit eventually. I have a hack and tap from Rubicon express (cheap). And expect to spend around $250 to 300 for a new drive shaft. I drove mine for two years before I got the SYE but I had to after my T-case split into two pieces. The best thing I did was get the adapter for the front shocks from JKS so you can use eye loop shocks. Good luck and have some one in the club help put it on in a day.
Thats a 95 YJ not a TJ springs only.
SOA is only about 5.5". The same as every idiot with a 4" lift and long shackles. 33s would be just fine. My brother's jeep didn't look too stupid with 33s, 4" suspension, 1" shackle (got rid of quick), and 3" body lift.
He's talking about coilovers...not coils.
...and I agree with Ryan. YJs with just a spring over look great on 33s. I'm pretty sure Lynda had 33" Mud Kings for a while, Suzie's 35" MTRs were about 32" tall, Wyatt's Jeep was on 33" Mud Kings... They all look better than 4" lifted YJs with shackles and body lifts to clear 33s/35s, and they perform and ride a whole lot better.
Last edited by bburris; 09-23-2004 at 04:32 PM.
Eric I read pirate all the time, it just takes awhile to dig through the crap to get to the good stuff, and I figured I can trust you guys more than them.
I'm thinkin body/shackle or springover and I want the cheapest most reliable. From what I've gathered springovers can lead to death wobble (i do a lot of highway drivin)and shackles can cause too much stress and bend the tub.
By the way I know what a SYE is...
He ran 33s with 4" suspension and 3" body lift.
Spring over's don't cause death wobble, it can happen either way. Bad caster angles, worn out ball joints, worn out bushings, loose steering, and unbalanced tires do.
Springover.
I think Scott can probably chime in with any info about Lynda's and any problems she may have. The only problem I could see that may cause death wobble on a YJ would be the steering, and that isn't hard to fix. If you are worried about it you can keep a steering stabilizer on it and get track bar brackets to retain your stock track bars.
Yes, he ran that yesterday, and last week, and even 2 weeks ago. But a month ago, it had lift shackles too, made it drive ****ty.
Codys is sprung over he will chime in.
I am running 33's with out any body lift and 1" shackles 4" lift springs. I think for the price you will be better going with a spring over.Welding on new perches is the hardest part. Then you might have a smother ride with stock springs. I never have had death wobble just vibration from the driveshaft.
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