How Much Does it REALLY Cost?

[BMFScout]

I know this is the pot calling the kettle black, but please don't clutter this thread up with discussion, just let people post their info.


Sometimes on these rigs there are thousands of dollars in them, and they still look like poo. Post up your itemized list of mods and a ball park figure of what it cost you. This might help people see what it really costs to build one of these rigs. Include major overhauls of major parts like engine or tranny rebuilds, but not oil change type crap. I am going to include the wrong paths I took as well, such as lift springs, when I went to springover later, and had to repurchase stock springs because I threw away the original ones

(Chadnuts you can just attach an excel file if you like)

Fred feel free to do this with your camaro instead.

'79 Scout, great condition, stock everything, lots of miles, pretty paint, just a small amount of rust, kickass boat winch and 400 lb bumper abortion on front. -,$4,000
33" BFG all terrains & chrome wheels ~$1000
Triangle 4" lift Springs-$400
New body & spring bushings-$100?
4 RS5000's-$120
19 gal polyethelene tank-$165
Front EZ-Locker-$220
True duals, two 3 chambered flowmasters-$400
Warn XD9000i Winch-$450
Hella lights-$40 at swap meet
Body lift-$20 for aluminum bar stock
Front/rear Bumpers-$60 in steel worked off mowing yards
Camaro seats-$free.99
tranny rebuild~$1000
front/rear dana 44's rebuilt, SOA'd, cut & turned for caster correction, 4.10's full detroit rear, drop in front-$1100
New to me stock springs for SOA~$60?
Flaming river steering joint~$60?
Electric fans from Dodge Intrepid '01 and up-$20 at swap meet
EFI setup~$250 including "freebies" from the junkyard
US Radiator 4 core~$250?
4 RS5000's for SOA-$120
2 ford truck shock towers-$20
3 35" BFG mud terrains pretty much brand new-$300
1 35" BFG mud terrain brand new- $220
4 chrome wheels~$80
scout knuckles for high steer, machined, tapped, and studded w/ hardware~$200
DOM tubing, Chevy Tie Rod Ends, machine work on pitman arm, and assorted hardware for high steer~$200
High Steer arms-$200
Tranny cooler-$30
Power Steering cooler-$30
Scout Madness shackle reversal kit~$200 (I thought, "Hey it's a kit, it will go on fast and it will be WAY proffesional )
Driveshafts-original front was from Tom woods, had another front one since then, and modification of the rear one, let's underestimate at ~$500
optima yellow top $120


That's $11,685 and I am sure I am forgetting some stuff.
That is why it is important to research things and listen to people that have done it before kids. I figure around $1600 can be deducted from the total from wrong paths, but I said to include it to give an accurate investment.

For Sale: '79 Scout over $11,000 invested, will take $10,500...

This also doesn't include the $800 in DOM I have laying in the shop waiting to be bent into a jungle gym.

[robertf03]

wrong paths included? I'm probably hovering around 20k in the cj, but I've had it for 8 years so thats not hard to do.

Scout is probably right at the 2k mark if you include tires.

[Cajun]

I haven't even attempted to figure what I have in the Scout. I've filed the receipts away for warranty purposes, and that is all. I don't even want to think about how much I've spent on it...I find it's better to remain blissfully ignorant.



EDIT: Is this the sort of clutter you're trying to avoid Jimmy?

[eight]

Well lets see.

$800 jeep.
$200 rebuild motor.
$150 weber and headers.
$100 clutch parts.
$400 body work.
$100 chrome wheels
$380 new 33s.
$100 shocks.
$50 pitman arm.
$80s new seals and misc d30 parts.
$220 radiator.
$10 retube rear driveshaft
$200 axles
$250 seals, brakes. etc.
$75 SSRs
$80 steering
$100 body bushings.
$120 marine CD player.
$50 to swap in 435
$50 motor + $50 seals and misc.
$175 motor + $200 for injection, ignition, etc.
$100 dual electric fans and controller.
And an extra grand for all the little stuff I try to forget about.

Things I've sold.
33s on chrome wheels $500. Yes more than it cost for fullwidths and swampers.
d30 parts $60, an 18 pack of coors, and 2 meals.
Misc peices from 3 258s, $300 on ebay.
Weber $125

So somewhere around $4000.

Hmm, where's all the costs for gears, lockers, driveshafts, springs, cage, wheels, more tires, exhausts, bumpers? And why so many motors?

[Mud King]

Here we go,

1991 Chevrolet S10 4x4

5" Trailmaster Suspension Lift - $1,500
32" Mud king Radials - $480
4.10 Gears and Lockrite Lockers + Install - $1,000
Tranny Leak Fix and New Clutch - $300
3 Brake Boosters - $180
Multiple CV Shafts Minus Warranty Receipt Work - $200
Front Prerunner - $100
Rear Tube Bumper - $160
Pontiac Red Paint Job - $1,000
3" Body Lift - $100
Power Steering Pump and Box - $200
33" Swampers and Aluminum Wheels - $1,100
Motor Pulled Rebuilt and Bored Out (Edelbrock Parts) - $1,800
2nd Tranny Leak Fix and New Clutch - $300
Glass Pack Muffler - $100
Warn Winch - $1,500
Superlift IFS Reindexing Keys (2in Lift) - $300
AC Components - $300
New Radiator - $200
Lots of other little replacement things - $500

Solid Axle Swap

Front D44 Axle - $100
Rear D44 Axle - $360
New Rear Axle Shaft - $100
Rancho 44044 Springs - $250
Rear Spring Rearch - $300
Brake Calipers and Brake Components - $200
Heim Steering w/1.5" Tubing - $140
Miscallaneous Steel Brackets and Hardware - $500
Custom Highsteer Arms - $350
Warn Lockout Hubs - $70
Drop Pitman Arm - $50
Rancho Shocks - $130
Steel Braided Brake Lines - $120
Tom Woods Front Shaft w/ Superflex Joints - $270
4.56 Gears - $600
D44 Lockrite - Free
U Joints and Conversion Joints - $120
Yokes - $80
Mickey Thompson Wheels - $570

3rd Tranny Pull with New Clutch and Flywheel - $250
Having a shop figure out why it has no pedal after new clutch and flywheel and after 5 slave cylinders, 3 master cylinders, and 2 more clutches, which still has mediocre pedal pressure and they f'ed up my tranny casing - $1,600

I think thats most of everything i know i have left out some stuff cuz there is just too much stuff to remember it all.

Total = $17,480 (I really didnt want to know that)

[Shaggy]

I'm gonna have to edit this i know cause this list is long
Free 1980 Bronco
$500 Engine rebuild
$150 Transfer cast
$150 Paint job (green)
$360 31" Datona M/Ts (bad doods)
$800 6" Skyjacker lift
$800 35" BFG M/Ts
$6500 New engine (BAD DOOD)
$1500 Bedline inside/outside of tub
$500 Bedline top
$225 Rear bumper
$50 Front bumper
$350 new door pannels and dash coverlay
$290 seats and visors recovered
$460 Roll bar
$650 Headers/flows/3" true dual
$250 5-piece harnesses
$300 gagues
$1500 Engine rebuild(i killed the bad dood)
$250 tranny rebuild
$650 CV driveshaft
$300 6" procomp springs
$150 DOM and heims for steering
$1500 detroit rear, eazy locker front 4.88 gears
$350 chromolly 9" shafts
$1500 Parts truck aka new axles
$300 rear detroit
$125 junkyard frame
$125 NP205
$125 NP205 rebuild
$160 wireing harness
$300 wheel spacers
$1800 39.5" IROKs and 17" rims
$110 body bushing kit
$2000 stereo equipment over the years
$100 new rear bumper
$140 5th bfg m/t
$500 5 15x10 black rims
$70 2 certed bfgs
=$25765
many thousands that are not even relivant
I have had it since i was 15
my estimate is that i actually have over 35k in it

[Sharpe]

I have a whole notebook full of every dime I've spent on the burban (including oil changes...). Here's what I can remember off the top of my head.

91 Burban Silverado (paid more than I should have for what I got) $4800
Dana 60 with the works $2000
14 bolt $700
6" lift $500
36" TSL radials $800
Warn M12000 $1000
NP241 SYE and High Angle rear shaft and e-brake $1100
Misc. odds and ends to keep it running ~$1000

[stx4wheeler]

Bronco $600 460/c-6/205 44 and nine inch,2 in cropped coil bucket lift, motor burned oil, brakes were non existent, and carb was so out of tune it shot fire from the side pipes, and an awesome "south texas edition customization bondo package".
Getting it running, full brake system, lines, booster, mc,messed with bondo and assorted stuff-500
REbuilt front 44 with new warn premiums,bearings, rotors, rebuilt front calipers-350
Rebuilt 460-light performance mods- with all new parts only tow things that were reused was the block and heads-but had them reworked-1200
Hydro Steer, and tapped box, and rebuilt box-450
Lift superflex 6 in. coils, front rear spring hanger shackle flip, homeade correction shims to help with coil bow, new coil cups, break lines, drop pitman and tracbar brackets,procomp es 9000 16 inch travel shocks front, and stock 95 f-350 shocks on the rear and relocated the mounting brackets- 600
Sterling rear f-350 ff rear axle- free-axle rebuild,brakes and welded spiders-60
38's-800
miscllaneos rims for different axles-250
Half doors-10
Aluminium Radiator-180
powersteering and tranny coolers-90
New exhaust system-90- Would never build exhaust system again by myself
spare shafts for both axles-150
homebrew bumpers-10
cage-80
dana 60 front-100 bucks plus my old nine inch with spare shafts and ls carrier
i think thats it- grand total of $5,460- minus 400 or so in sold parts $ 5,060

[AgDieseler]

This goes back to when I was 14, so this build is spread out over nearly 10 years.

$1000 - 85 suburban
$450 - Interior refit
$1000 - BFGs & Eatons
$400 - First lift 4"
$1900 - Paint
$3000 - Motor
$2000 - First six Raptors
$1750 - Art Carr 700
$1300 - Turbo
$50 - 14FF & 8 lug 10 bolt
$2000 - Build of the above axles
$2500 - D60 build
$450 - Crossover steering
$450 - Second lift 6"
$75 - Steering Brace
$80 - Front shackles
$50 - Swaybar disconnects
$120 - Custom brake lines
$550 - 14FF gear change 4.10 -> 4.88
$550 - Tom Wood's driveshaft
$175 - Brune Fab intake
$199 - H2 Wheels
$50 - Chevy center caps

That's $20,099, and I know I've left a lot of stuff out. Over the summer, I will likely get a set of 37s, have some of the paint touched up, and find even more ways to spend money.

[8Runner]

I probably have $60k plus in 8runner, but that includes the original purchase ($18k) and insurance money ($24k)from the rollover back in '98.

[Fredo]

92 Camaro RS Convertible $6500
New Tires $550
SLP Headers (used)$200
Ceramic Coating done to headers $125
Completely new exhaust $650
Alpine headunit $275
Rockford Amp $275
Boston Acoustics front and rear speakers $350
JL Audio 8" subs $300 (pair)
Seats recovered in Ultraleather $750
New Vert top $485
Eibach Springs $250
KYB Shocks and Struts $350
Polygraphite Bushing Kit $275
LT1/T56 combo $3000
Harness and computer reflashing $450
Optima Battery $100
4.10 R&P and install kit $250 (boom)
4.10 R&P and install kit $250 (boom)
4.10 R&P and install kit $300 (motive gear)
1LE Aluminum Driveshaft $100
Electric Water Pump $185
Z28 Electric Fans $100
LT4 Hotcam, rockers, and valvesprings $275
GMPP 1.6 Ratio Full Roller Rockers $250
Comp Cams Chromoly Pushrods $40
Custom Built Subframe connectors $150
New Wheels and Tires $1650
Full paint job and colorsanding and buffing -FREEBIE
New Optima Battery $100
Radiator $185
Cooling fan motor $45
K&N Filters $50
LT1_Edit programming software and cable $350
Aeromotive Fuel Press Reg. $185
New Tires again $650
New Koni Adjustable Struts $300
Eibach Sportline Springs $280
New Calipers, Pads, Rotors and bearings $400

Bringing us to a ballpark of $20980......god I hate that car.

[texasxj]

84 xj free
shafts, oil, gaskets,brakes, hub bearings, stuff to try and save it.-$700
3"/2" lifts, wheels-300
31 bfg muds-600
th350w. rv shift kit-750
np231-300
350-231 adapter-200
283-300-still sitting in my storage.
14 bolt 100 dbc-250
350-500
rebuild+tip+supen up-1500
sbc to xj motor mounts-200
d44-400
tools-1000
storage-100 month
trailer-700
beer-$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
and im nowhere near done!

sold:
-lifts-150
bfgs-500
axles,motor, tcase-stock stuff-~$50

I dont want to add this up so someone do it for me!!!

[mudtoy67]

Yall might need to deduct stuff that you have sold off of your vehicle.

For Ex:

Fred - subtract $150 for selling your TBI motor to your old buddy BDR

That brings it to only $20830. That should make you feel a little better about it.

I'll work my costs up later....gotta study for a physics exam

[redcagepatrol]

from the Patrol Cost thread:
I added up all the receipts (I kept them ALL)
Parts Stores: $714.93
Hardware stores: $481.46
Paint, Muffler shop, Driveshaft, windshield: $555.94
Steel: $796.25 (LOTS leftover)
Speciality Shops: $1854.56, this includes jhonny joints, Dzus fastners, fuel cell, knuckle rebuild kit, rock ram, line lock, wheel spacers, LED and front lights, antenna, and wire harness
Dealers: $258.80 - includes gearbox rebuild kit and spare front axle shaft
Misc: $863.60 - includes engine rebuild, SS bolt bin, hood hinges, spare front shafts, and treated Birfields
Race Shops: $516.90 - switches, gauges, seatbelts, rubber
Junkyards: $980 - front axle, rear axle, shocks, seats, coils, column, motor mounts

TOTAL for all that: $7022.44
This total includes every nut and bolt used, the majority of supplies like grinding discs, plasma cutter tips, welding wire, sandpaper, tape, oil, filters, solder, wire, crimps - EVERYTHING.

add in registration and inspection: $7090.78
add in tubing bender, flare tool, and a few more supplies: $7725.83

What did I reuse??? engine with a rebuild, tranny and t-cases, radiator, tires and wheels, front line lock, air system less fittings, clutch master, brake booster, clutch slave, rear discs, tires and wheels. Pretty much everthing else is new.

Adding in the reused stuff: ($3455 total)
$300 engine and tranny
$1200 Marlin Crawler dual t-case setup
$100 used radiator
$1400 tires and wheels
$60 front line lock
$100 air filter and pressure switch
$40 clutch master
$40 brake booster
$15 clutch slave
$200 rear discs

COMPLETE Total with re-used stuff AND special tools:
$11,180.83
EDIT: add $420 for the body ($500-$80 for selling the rolling chasis)
$11,600.83

and that is truely with everything - masking tape and plastic for the paint job, all welding supplies, all gas used, all grinding discs bought - EVERYTHING.

Been wheeling it hard for a few years now - spent about $500 redoing the rear 4 link and that's about it.

[Busa]

Part Price Qty. Total Dealer
ATF Fluid $1.29 1 $1.29 O'Reillys
Brake Tee $6.69 1 $6.69 O'Reillys
Bore Hone $48.00 1 $48.00 Cook's Napa
Brake Hose $10.73 2 $21.46 Napa
Brake Fittings $0.28 2 $0.56 Napa
Brake Fluid $10.16 1 $10.16 Napa
Brake Fluid $3.49 1 $3.49 Napa
Brake Fluid $2.49 4 $9.96 O'Reillys
Brake Line Bolt $2.07 2 $4.14 Napa
Brake Pads $16.99 1 $16.99 Napa
Brake Pads $16.99 1 $16.99 Napa
Brake Pads $22.99 2 $45.98 O'Reillys
Brake Pads $23.73 1 $23.73 O'Reillys
Brake Rotors $50.20 2 $100.40 O'Reillys
Brake Hardware Kit $9.12 1 $9.12 O'Reillys
Brake Lines $5.89 1 $5.89 O'Reillys
Birfields $115.00 2 $230.00 Longfield
Battery $101.95 1 $101.95 Napa
Battery Terminal $3.20 1 $3.20 Napa
Caliper $15.15 2 $30.30 Napa
Caliper Bolts $5.58 4 $22.32 Napa
Clarence Light $23.57 1 $23.57 O'Reillys
Clear Light $12.29 1 $12.29 O'Reillys
Crank Seal $3.89 1 $3.89 O'Reillys
Cable for Locker $175.40 1 $175.40 Downey O.R.
Carb Cleaner $3.59 1 $3.59 O'Reillys
Drag Link $159.00 1 $159.00 Marlin Crawler
Distrib Cap $7.49 2 $14.98 O'Reillys
Distrib Rotor $3.49 2 $6.98 O'Reillys
Exhaust Pipe Gsk $1.79 2 $3.58 O'Reillys
Exhaust Manifold set $20.81 1 $20.81 O'Reillys
Eng. Kit $159.00 1 $159.00 Cook's Napa
Front Inner axle seals $5.49 2 $10.98 O'Reillys
Front Spring $275.00 1 $275.00 All Pro Off-Road
FJ 80 Master Cyl $129.00 1 $129.00 Marlin Crawler
Gas Cap $6.39 1 $6.39 O'Reillys
Grind Crankshaft $85.00 1 $85.00 Cook's Napa
Gear Oil $34.99 1 $34.99 Napa
Gear Oil $22.95 1 $22.95 O'Reillys
Gear Oil $22.95 1 $22.95 O'Reillys
Gears 4.7 $399.00 1 $399.00 Marlin Crawler
Gasket Set $8.73 1 $8.73 Cook's Napa
Hydro Ram Eyes $6.99 2 $13.98 John Deere
Head Set $59.99 1 $59.99 Cook's Napa
Hy-Steer Arms $354.00 1 $354.00 All Pro Off-Road
Head Gasket $57.99 1 $57.99 O'Reillys
Install Kit $39.95 2 $79.90 4Wheel Parts
Knuckle Kit $85.00 1 $85.00 Marlin Crawler
Lens $23.57 1 $23.57 O'Reillys
Lens $29.90 1 $29.90 O'Reillys
Mill Head $25.00 1 $25.00 Cook's Napa
Muffler $51.99 1 $51.99 O'Reillys
Muffler $26.59 2 $53.18 O'Reillys
Muffler $58.99 1 $58.99 O'Reillys
Muffler Clamps $1.09 4 $4.36 O'Reillys
Muffler Clamps $1.09 1 $1.09 O'Reillys
Motor Oil $2.19 5 $10.95 Napa
Motor Oil $1.79 27 $48.33 O'Reillys
Nut Kit $8.50 2 $17.00 Marlin Crawler
Oil Filter $5.04 1 $5.04 Napa
Oil Filter $2.99 4 $11.96 O'Reillys
Oil Pump $69.99 1 $69.99 O'Reillys
Press Piston $16.00 4 $64.00 Cook's Napa
Piston Rings $35.00 1 $35.00 Cook's Napa
Pressure Test $25.00 1 $25.00 Cook's Napa
Rotors $24.83 2 $49.66 Napa
Rear Axle Seal $5.63 2 $11.26 Napa
Rear Axle Seal $6.19 1 $6.19 O'Reillys
Rear Axle Bearing $38.99 1 $38.99 O'Reillys
Rear Axle Bearing $44.99 1 $44.99 Napa
Rear Pinion Seal $9.54 1 $9.54 Napa
Rear Pinion Seal $8.49 1 $8.49 Napa
Rear Pinion Seal $9.19 1 $9.19 O'Reillys
Ring&Pinion 5.29 $125.00 2 $250.00 4Wheel Parts
Rear Spring $337.50 1 $337.50 All Pro Off-Road
Ring Master Set $12.94 1 $12.94 Cook's Napa
Rear C/V $175.00 1 $175.00 Marlin Crawler
Rocker Switch $4.99 1 $4.99 O'Reillys
Shifter Boot $8.00 1 $8.00 Marlin Crawler
Shifter $25.00 1 $25.00 Marlin Crawler
Shifter Base $15.00 1 $15.00 Marlin Crawler
Shifter Knob $15.00 1 $15.00 Marlin Crawler
Steering arm $49.00 1 $49.00 Marlin Crawler
Silicone $6.76 3 $20.28 O'Reillys
Silicone $2.69 1 $2.69 Napa
Slip Joint $40.00 1 $40.00 Marlin Crawler
Slave Cyl $14.70 1 $14.70 O'Reillys
Solid Plug $1.51 1 $1.51 O'Reillys
Starting Fluid $1.59 1 $1.59 O'Reillys
Speedometer Cable $15.99 1 $15.99 Napa
Spark Plugs $1.29 4 $5.16 O'Reillys
Spark Plugs $1.59 4 $6.36 O'Reillys
Spark Plug Wires $13.99 1 $13.99 O'Reillys
Spark Plug Wires $22.97 1 $22.97 O'Reillys
Seet Rebuilt $100.00 1 $100.00 Darren
Steel & Metal $1,000.00 1 $1,000.00
Tail Light Lens $17.89 1 $17.89 O'Reillys
Tail Light Lens $31.99 1 $31.99 O'Reillys
Tail Light Lens $17.89 1 $17.89 O'Reillys
Timing Cover $10.00 1 $10.00 Cook's Napa
Tires $190.00 5 $950.00 Discount
Tire Warranty $30.00 10 $300.00 Discount
Timing Kit $74.00 1 $74.00 Cook's Napa
Tranny rebuild $343.00 1 $343.00 Marlin Crawler
Tie Rod $159.00 1 $159.00 Marlin Crawler
T-Case Adapter $499.00 1 $499.00 Marlin Crawler
Tool Box $220.00 1 $220.00 Lowe's
Thermostat $2.99 1 $2.99 O'Reillys
Timing Kit $40.39 2 $80.78 O'Reillys
Thermostat Seal $0.79 1 $0.79 O'Reillys
Undercoating $2.99 2 $5.98 O'Reillys
U-Bolts $9.29 4 $37.16 Napa
U-Bolts $10.97 3 $32.91 O'Reillys
U-Bolts $10.97 1 $10.97 O'Reillys
U-Bolts $10.79 7 $75.53 O'Reillys
U-Bolts $10.97 1 $10.97 O'Reillys
U-Bolts $6.79 1 $6.79 O'Reillys
V-Belt $6.14 1 $6.14 O'Reillys
Vat Block $35.00 1 $35.00 Cook's Napa
Valve Job $85.00 1 $85.00 Cook's Napa
Val. Grease $7.34 1 $7.34 Napa
Warn 8000 $650.00 1 $650.00 4Wheel Parts
Wiper Refill $8.98 1 $8.98 Napa
Wheel Studs $1.59 12 $19.08 O'Reillys
Washer Pump $14.69 1 $14.69 O'Reillys
XL T-Shirt $12.00 1 $12.00 Marlin Crawler
4X4 Shifter $25.00 1 $25.00 Marlin Crawler
1in Wheel Spacers $80.00 2 $160.00 Marlin Crawler
54mm Socket $24.95 1 $24.95 Marlin Crawler

91 Toyota pickup $3000


12728.71

I know that I have spent more than this, but this is the all the receipts I have.