Anti-Wrap Front and Rear

[davido]

just make 10" long spring perches and a 8" long top plate. Bolt together and the problem is solved

Would that not effect the flex of the springs? It could be an issue where the mount is cast into the housing also.

[agjohn02]

Would that not effect the flex of the springs? It could be an issue where the mount is cast into the housing also.

pretty sure he was joking

[CRaSHnBuRN]

yeah, that was a joke I think. As for the front springs, I may need to figure something out for myself. In the rockpile at gilmer this weekend I could actually watch the front wrap up

[davido]

He may have been exagerating the measurements, but he wasn't joking about the method. That's pretty much what he recommended when I talked to him about it last week. What works for Eric's 4banger and 33s may not necessarily work for a SB350 and 42s. All I know is that I need something bad. I blew out another rear u-joint this weekend in Alto. Sucks. So when are we building Eric?

[uglyota]

I just ordered my materials minus pipe. Pick up a heim, threaded insert, 3 bushings/sleeves, some 3/16 plate and some pipe and gimme a call
coleman racing = free shipping!

[davido]

I think I pretty much have everything except for a little steel.

[uglyota]

http://www.4x4wire.com/jeep/tech/susp/axlewrap/
good down-to-earth explanations

[chevsu]

i wish you guys would hurry up and figure this out so i can copy it and make it better.

[uglyota]

you aren't running antiwrap bars?

[uglyota]

2 more good resources:
http://board.marlincrawler.com/index...c=7088.new#new
http://www.mindspring.com/~jayk3/toyota/rear_susp.htm
guess I better go ahead and actually do it now...

[TxCruzr]

http://www.pirate4x4.com/forum/showthread.php?t=413745

[redcagepatrol]

you have to get much more weld area than what they were doing for a Toyota axle. I have seen many of these ripped out of the housing. The more surface area the better...

I thought I had a ton of area with my upper links but I still cracked the housing and had to fix it.

[agjohn02]

heres the front bar on that red bent and twisted jeep. yeah, its not the best design, but how much do you really need on the front?

[CRaSHnBuRN]

you would be amazed how much a front can wrap up. I can literally watch mine doing it since the visibilaty is so good. In the case of the jeep, add in big tires, a big engine, and what looks like relatively thin, flexy springs, and I could definitely see the need for those.

[davido]

Mine was enough to rip off my front mount (at the skid plate) then later to rip off the top tabs off the axle. Maybe not the best welding, but they were on there pretty solid and they got ripped smooth off. That design still gives a good amount of leverage and works well in tight spaces. For leverage, I still like the radius arm setup with the shackle.