I found this video on the LHOR board, the guy that posted it defends the sh¡t out of how they suck. In the thread they posted it on though, they might as well be nutting on their keyboards over the Rubicons Read all about it here and here The video is about 5 mins in Quicktime and takes a good while to d/l i'd think b.c. the server sucks, but you'll see what they mean by "not being able to run over a curb without lifting a tire"...the guy is almost instantly on 3 wheels when he goes up anything...NO flex whatsoever.