i just reminded myself why i hate pirate so much. i did a backdoor search for 4 link stuff and read over some threads. the guys that get on there and try to sound like they know what they are talking about and the arguements over simple engineering principles are more than i can handle. i dont like trying to learn something i dont know much about and having to sort through tons of BS at the same time. i tired some other on-line forums as well and found pretty much the same thing. i feel ike im in 6th grade again learning about sex from my peers.

does anyone know of any good off-road suspension references? preferrably in print so as to validate them. ive read several good race suspension design books but ive never seen an off-road one. is the sport still too young to be documented? st. john?