Scott's Patrol Progress

[Fredo]

I have no recollection of what you speak of....bastard.

[redcagepatrol]

i know Fredo would back me here....BLACK MOUNTAIN!!!

Rodney had one for a little bit - that thing was absolutly horrible I got frustrated every time that we had to use that thing - it sucked...

[agjohn02]

you can cut down a m8000 pretty easily to make a small buggy winch.

[bburris]

Rodney had one for a little bit - that thing was absolutly horrible I got frustrated every time that we had to use that thing - it sucked...

Well, you weren't actually supposed to use it - they're just for show.

[redcagepatrol]

I put a new drive seat in for this trip - the old one's frame was broken byone repair... This one - straight from the junkyard is much cleaner too

I also fixed the exhaust (was hanging on the rear axle), welded up the cracked rear diff, replaced the brake line, replace the shock bushings that were ejected, and replace the two tires that were cut from the last trip.

I added another cup holder - impulse buy at Bass pro shops...

Sorry no pics but it's readdy to go!

[robertf03]

where did you get shock bushings? 2 of mine ejected and its pretty annoying

[redcagepatrol]

my buddy Jeremy gave me like eight from 4-wheel parts for free... You want some, I've got some left?

[robertf03]

don't worry about it, if I cant get it done by Thurdsay its not getting done until sometime next year

[redcagepatrol]

so I broke a rear R&P this time...

This is my history / progression with rear Toyota axles

1) ran toyota 4cyl case with 4:88's and Detroit - stripped R&P at twice
2) went back to 4:10 gears, 4cyl case with detroit - stripped R&P at least once
3) swapped to V6 case with 4:10's welded in 2002 when I built the Patrol. I think the welds broke once and I stripped the gears once. This lasted several years but in December last year and Febuary of this year I broke the welded spider gears in half (two trips in a row, unique break).
4) swapped back to a 4 cyl case - welded with 4:10's for the July trip to Clayton. It held up for that trip. Broke on this one.

Long story short - I'm having a hard time deciding what I should change to. My options are:
1) buy a NEW V6 third member with a detroit and heat treated gears. Might go to a lower 5:29 gear for a future upgrade to bigger tires. Cost ~$1200 for the rear, another ~$1200 for the front (chage gears and add Detroit)
2) Swap the rear axle to a Spider9. Cost ~$3400 for the rear and still $1200 for the front. A big part of that expense is the True HI9 third member...

I've only put used parts in this thing for the past 6 years, spending this much money to fix it will be pretty rough (and not in my budget)

My future goals are to run 42" tires and lighten the rig...

What to do, what to do

I'm leaning towards the Spider9 because I'll only have to build it once and won't ever have to worry about it again - even if I swap in a sweet V8 - just looking towards the future.

[davido]

I'd man up and buy a 14 Bolt for $200.






I wouldn't spend another dime on those axles though.

[tigweld]

I wouldn't put a boat anchor 14 bolt in, a 9" would be plenty strong with weight reduction he has planned. I think I would probably rather have a strange or mw low pinion for strength instead of the hi 9, unless his rear driveline angles suck then it's ok.

[davido]

I was kidding. I know Scott's not buying one anyway. I don't see an issue with them with disks, but whatever. Who cares about a little weight vs the extra cost. Not me, but that's fine. It's a lot of extra skrilla for those 9" axles though. Still a better option IMO than spending more on the Toy ones. Especially with dreams of 42s lurking already.

[robertf03]

does the front hold up?

aren't fj80 rears a bigger R&P than v6? is that an option?

[FJAggie07]

v6 third with GOOD gears. That's my vote but I am a Toyota purist.

EDIT - GOOD = Heated and Cryo'd gears.

[tigweld]

I think the fj80 rear limit's u on gear or locker selection. a newer style tundra rear would be bad ass though as it's one beefy biatch.