Softcore Jeep build

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Originally Posted by Seth

Motor swaps/upgrades are way too common on these jeeps to put 1000 plus into a 2.5. If you want to do the 4 banger, put a used one in.

Also, talk your dad into getting a new DD. An expo would be perfect to pull the jeep, the rx7, and much better as a DD.

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I agree with you completely. Your the only one to offer logical alternatives, that meet my demands. :gigem: He is just a financially conservative guy. I really just want to put a junkyard motor in, he really just wants me to graduate with out wasting any more time on cars...

I wouldn't mind DDing the Expedition either, its in mostly great shape, has the 5.4, tow package, airbags,etc. He is very specific about not having more than one car payment, etc. I wouldn't be surprised that he buys a new car in about a year and lets me drive it, if the transmission dosent go out. (It is shifting hard, and kinda slipping).


Everyone else stop cluttering up my thread with redundant bull-****. If anyone else wants to comment on what motor I should get, feel free to buy it for me. :gigem:

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Originally Posted by breckboarder55

I agree with you completely. The only one to offer logical alternatives, that meet my demands. :gigem: He is just a financially conservative guy.
I really just want to put a junkyard motor in, he really just wants me to graduate with out wasting any more time on cars.

I wouldn't mind DDing the Expedition either, but it gets all of 13mpg city/16 highway. He is very specific about not having more than one car payment, etc. I wouldn't be surprised that he buys a new car in about a year and lets me drive it, if the transmission dosent go out. (It is shifting hard, and kinda slipping).


Everyone else stop cluttering up my thread with redundant bull-****.

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putting another 2.5 is redundant bull**** :flipoff2:

and I don't see putting a $1100 2.5 in your as being financially conservative. With 33's wouldn't the 4.0 negate the need for new gears?

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Originally Posted by BroncoJo

putting another 2.5 is redundant bull**** :flipoff2:

and I don't see putting a $1100 2.5 in your as being financially conservative. With 33's wouldn't the 4.0 negate the need for new gears?

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It still wouldn't be ideal with stock gears and I would still need to put in new axles anyways.

It will get me a running Jeep with a warranty by the end next week. Something none of the other options give me...

call junior and see if he has a motor. he always has jeep stuff around

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Originally Posted by colman

call junior and see if he has a motor. he always has jeep stuff around

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When I talked to him last Wednesday he had a YJ 2.5L he just put or is putting in a tracker.

for $1100 will let you have the 4.0l and transmission out of my jeep it only has 78,000 ish on the motor

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Originally Posted by AggieTJ2007

for $1100 will let you have the 4.0l and transmission out of my jeep it only has 78,000 ish on the motor

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~80% of which was spent at the rev limiter :flipoff2:

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Originally Posted by AggieTJ2007

for $1100 will let you have the 4.0l and transmission out of my jeep it only has 78,000 ish on the motor

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Originally Posted by Sharpe

~80% of which was spent at the rev limiter :flipoff2:

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No thanks.

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Originally Posted by breckboarder55

When I talked to him last Wednesday he had a YJ 2.5L he just put or is putting in a tracker.

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He's probably got 2 more. I'd check. :p

certified good 2.5L on the cheap from junkyard, spend less money, keep wheeling. Reliable DDs are dangerous. Next thing you know, Jeep is in your driveway waiting on that v8 swap to magically happen.

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Originally Posted by JBrown89

certified good 2.5L on the cheap from junkyard, spend less money, keep wheeling. Reliable DDs are dangerous. Next thing you know, Jeep is in your driveway waiting on that v8 swap to magically happen.

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Where would I find a "certified good 2.5L"?

The good junkyards pull them and make sure they are good etc and sell them. I would assume that is how they make money.

Make a run to a PnP. For 1100 for could buy two cherokees and have more than enough parts for a 4.o swap.

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Originally Posted by breckboarder55

I agree with you completely. Your the only one to offer logical alternatives, that meet my demands. :gigem:

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thanks jackass, i told you to go for the junkyard motor like 12 hours ago

put a shift kit and some trick shift in that expedition before you burn some bands permanently

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Originally Posted by JBrown89

The good junkyards pull them and make sure they are good etc and sell them. I would assume that is how they make money.

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doubt they make sure they're good. if its bad, they just give you another one that might be good. easy warranty. ive still havent uncrossed my fingers on this 5.3 in the jeep.

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Originally Posted by uglyota

thanks jackass, i told you to go for the junkyard motor like 12 hours ago

put a shift kit and some trick shift in that expedition before you burn some bands permanently

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Its not like I didn't know what a junkyard motor was, it was in my first post. I have just never heard of a "certified" junk yard motor. Such thing might help the bank of Dad to buy into a Junk yard motor.

I am driving the Expedition home Thursday after work to have the transmission looked at, unless someone can recommend a good shop in town.

If you didn't have such a time crunch I would say cruise all the forums looking for someone swapping the 4 banger for a V8. Would be able to pick it up for next to nothing I'm sure and probably have a spare transmission/t-case thrown in the deal.

Quick check on car-parts, junkyard 2.5L going for 1000-1500. Seems a little ridiculous.

Guy wants $400, could probably get it cheaper then spend a few hundred on new bearings and be good to go.
http://austin.craigslist.org/pts/1941036020.html

for reference, a 5.3l can be had from a yard with a guarantee for $750.

more reputable yards like lkq etc offer warranties. ive seen them anywhere from 90 day to 1 yr 12k to or even more.

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Originally Posted by uglyota

put a shift kit and some trick shift in that expedition before you burn some bands permanently

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Anybody recommend a good transmission place in BCS?

J&P transmission off hwy 21 East I know does autos, they set up the gears in my d-44. you might want to get a hold of JB, I know he had auto work done recently.

John's has done well for me on three rebuilds. He also donated to TCC a few years ago.

what about autozone and craftsman. I wouldn't spend much money on a transmission that's on its way out...just change fluid/filter with trick shift and install the shift kit, you're out like $100. Dunno what a tranny shop would charge for that

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Originally Posted by 85cj7

J&P transmission off hwy 21 East I know does autos, they set up the gears in my d-44. you might want to get a hold of JB, I know he had auto work done recently.

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Cool, I just spoke with Russ (I think that was his name) at Baertrax, he is giving me a quote on ARB+R/P for my 44.

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Originally Posted by breckboarder55

Cool, I just spoke with Russ (I think that was his name) at Baertrax, he is giving me a quote on ARB+R/P for my 44.

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Russ is no longer the owner, read here. . . http://lsjc.org/board/showthread.php?t=46462

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

BaerTrax, Inc. would like to make the following announcement: As of Wednesday, August 25, 2010, BaerTrax was purchased by Josh Bertschy from Russ and Christy Baer. Both Russ and Christy Baer will be staying on to help with transition, and introductions for customer and vendors as Josh assumes all responsibilities for the company.

In the past 10 years, Christy and Russ have given a good part of their life to the offroad community and have met many life long friends from the customers at the BaerTrax shop in addition to wheelers from all over the country.

Russ and Christy had been contemplating a new adventure this past year and our first consideration was choosing someone to whom we could pass the torch. We never listed the business for sale or even considered doing so, instead we first approached Josh Bertschy and his wife Amanda about the idea of buying BaerTrax as we wanted our customers and friends to be able to deal with a person of integrity and experience.

Josh and Amanda Bertschy are from Arkansas but also resided in Texas from 2002 to 2007. Josh is a graduate of Wyoming Tech with degrees in Automotive Technology and Business Management. He also completed the Chassis Fab and Hot Rod Fab classes at Wyoming Tech. His bio includes working for a reputable 4x4 shop. After graduation, Josh was a Mercedes Benz Technician, then a service department manager at Park Place Lexus and Huffines Jeep Chrysler Dodge, most recently being a Service Director at Mercedes Benz of Northwest Arkansas prior to his ownership of BaerTrax.

Rockcrawling has been a huge part of Josh’s life since he was 15 years old. Josh wheels a full tube chassis he built sporting a Jeep body. He is a Toyota guy at heart. His first rig was an FJ-40 and has always had a Landcruiser in the mix.

We feel confident about our choice to carry on the BaerTrax name and grow the business past its current capacity in a way we will be proud of.. We did not only choose Josh for his customer service and technical ability but also for his business sense and his fabrication abilities. Our dream and vision to take BaerTrax to the next level will be confidently handled by this fine individual.

We are still here for you. Please know also this is a good thing for BaerTrax and its customers in the four wheel community and for us. Please know we are not abandoning Baertrax or our customers. Please support Josh in this new endeavor as he grows the business to its next level.

OK, that makes since because I read Russ but heard Josh.

He seemed really nice, warranty all of his work and parts if I go through him. Says he goes to Clayton every 2-3 weeks.

John's in bryan or oliver brothers both do good work. John's is a little cheaper but u work on his time

John Brown has a transmission guy that I will most likely try the next time I need work on one. Oliver is good but expensive, seems like their answer to everything is "needs to be rebuilt".

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Originally Posted by Seth

John Brown has a transmission guy that I will most likely try the next time I need work on one. Oliver is good but expensive, seems like their answer to everything is "needs to be rebuilt".

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larry bird?

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Originally Posted by RCcola55

John's in bryan or oliver brothers both do good work. John's is a little cheaper but u work on his time

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I gave John a call. When I realized it is about an 1/8th of a mile from my office I dropped it off and walked back. Yeah, I work in the ghetto :flipoff2:.

you wanted 4.56 gears right. i sold corey a set that he isn't going to use. there in montgomery and i'm gonna be there friday morning. i could pick them up for you.

I wouldn't buy used gears if a shop was doing the install.

these gears were never run. setup then i parted the axle

Transmission Specialties at Deacon/Texas

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Originally Posted by colman

you wanted 4.56 gears right. i sold corey a set that he isn't going to use. there in montgomery and i'm gonna be there friday morning. i could pick them up for you.

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Hey?

no the gears for you are high pinion, i have a set of standard 4.56 gears. i also have a detroit for the 3.xx gear ratios, 3.54 standard gears. housings, shafts etc
i'm going to go and get the gears for your hp44 friday as well

Ahh:)

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Originally Posted by colman

hopefully i won't become a horder one day....

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John pulled the pan on the expedition and found a TON of debris/metal shavings. Test drove it and just said it was a matter of when, not if. Going to go ahead and have the Expedition transmission rebuild. Not my money, not my decision.

Worked a good price on the motor+install.

Josh at Baertrax quoted roughly $1200 for an ARB+bearings+R/P+install with a full warranty for my D44. I could get the individual parts cheaper, but he seems to be pretty competitive when you account for install. Plus he has a great warranty.

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Originally Posted by Seth

John Brown has a transmission guy that I will most likely try the next time I need work on one. Oliver is good but expensive, seems like their answer to everything is "needs to be rebuilt".

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it's like the tranny shop mantra...I trust John though (cawks don't quote that, fawker), would probably go ahead and let him do it