Sloth

[BroncoJo]

You need to watch what you say to people tommy. There are many on here, just as with any other site, that mean well but just come across in a manor that will make a thin skinned person butthurt, for example me or fred. For someone that just learned to weld and has a history of makin dumbass mistakes working on their vehicle, you might want to step back and take some advice from others. Even though all the young guys in this club, including myself at times, have the idea that all the old tamorites are the ones running off the newbs, they are still the ones with the experience and knowledge to help this dying club keep its head above water.

As for boxing the frame or building a crossmember, ya it might be a little more work and tough to work around all the **** in there, but overcoming those issue is what being a good fabricator/builder is all about. Just as I told you before, take the time and do it right the first time or you are going to get pissed when **** goes wrong on something that could have been prevented. How hard would it really be to make a bend quick crossmember or make one out of square? The factory had one, but I guess the designers were dumb and dont know how to make a vehicle last 30+ with a monkey driving it.

Maybe the people that mean well should watch what they say too... just saying


but lets try this again, and I guess my last post got lost.

Could the frame break somewhere around the mount? Sure
But after having done a set of James duff arms before and seeing them last fine for the last 4 years I doubt tommy will have much problem.

Reasons for not boxing the frame:
Save time and money of doing it right
In nearly every Ford frame I've seen boxed, and no cage, it ends up cracked on the edge where the boxing ends or begins. C channel frame like these are designed to have a certain amount of flex and by strengthening adds stress to the adjacent areas.

Reason for no crossmember:
Time, money, added hang down

Who has experience with the RA mount breaking the frame? where did it break at? why did it break?

In my experience with extended RAs on fords this set-up has worked fine for many years and boxing the frame has normally lead to a much worse result. Also when I was researching both James Duff and Cage recommended not boxing the frame and said that a cross member was unnecessary, in fact the Duff arm mounts are made for the early bronco boxed frame and their instructions were to cut off the inside ear and bolt up.