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Thread: Ecoboost vs 5.0

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    Not unless you like winding your **** out to 5k rpm
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparling View Post
    Not unless you like winding your **** out to 5k rpm
    Now you're just talking out your ass. Forced induction applications give torque low in the RPM range, turbo's are no exception. See the graph below for the Ecoboost.


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    There's a lot of people talking out of their ass in this thread. Thanks for pointing it out.
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    Here's the one you need. This is on a chassis dyno, not an engine dyno. Where is the ecoboost torque at 2k rpms where you will more likely be cruising at?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparling View Post
    Here's the one you need. This is on a chassis dyno, not an engine dyno. Where is the ecoboost torque at 2k rpms where you will more likely be cruising at?

    Oh please keep telling me all about chassis dyno's, enlighten me oh enlightened one. Point is you said winding it out to 5K rpms, The ecoboost has a fairly flat torque curve starting with 90% of it's torque between 2500-3000 rpm's (depending on the dyno). It is at least 50 ft lbs at the wheels above the 5.0 at 3K rpms, that is very acceptable when mashing the skinny pedal. There is no "winding it out" imo.

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    The ecoboost is lots of fun in the explorer sport. The truck just feels like a regular v8 to me. I don't recall ever driving the 5.0 so I can't speak to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FJAggie07 View Post
    Don't be scared of Sticker on Dodge, it doesn't mean crap to them. I just bought a 14 Ram 2500 CC 4wd Cummins Laramie on saturday, sticker was $58K and I bought it for $48K. Probably could have got more off of it if I was financing but since I was trading in a vehicle with a higher trade in than the vehicle I was buying they didn't want to go any lower.

    Did you get screwed on your trade in? That seems like a smokin price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FJAggie07 View Post
    Oh please keep telling me all about chassis dyno's, enlighten me oh enlightened one. Point is you said winding it out to 5K rpms, The ecoboost has a fairly flat torque curve starting with 90% of it's torque between 2500-3000 rpm's (depending on the dyno). It is at least 50 ft lbs at the wheels above the 5.0 at 3K rpms, that is very acceptable when mashing the skinny pedal. There is no "winding it out" imo.
    Who said anything about being enlightened? You posted a graph that means nothing in the real world. What the truck gets to the wheels is important. So I exaggerated a bit, so what. My point stands that at cruising rpm, the ecoboost doesn't make the torque that makes the difference between it and the 5.0 which means you're going to either give it more pedal than the 5.0 to do a small speed increase which means its either going to take longer to do the same thing or its going to downshift, and then upshift again once you let off. I dont know about you but i hate my truck downshifting on hills just to maintain speed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparling View Post
    Who said anything about being enlightened? You posted a graph that means nothing in the real world. What the truck gets to the wheels is important. So I exaggerated a bit, so what. My point stands that at cruising rpm, the ecoboost doesn't make the torque that makes the difference between it and the 5.0 which means you're going to either give it more pedal than the 5.0 to do a small speed increase which means its either going to take longer to do the same thing or its going to downshift, and then upshift again once you let off. I dont know about you but i hate my truck downshifting on hills just to maintain speed.

    Then a chassis dyno means nothing either.

    From my experience ( several thousand miles in a 5.0 and a few test drives in a ecoboost )

    The 5.0 down shifts all the time which makes me hate the 6 speed transmission.

    The ecoboost can handle the passing lane without downshifting.

    And that is the main reason I was leaning towards ecoboost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerryg79 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by jerryg79 View Post
    This thread got gayer than all 3 tapes found on top of karl's vcr.
    I told you those came with the VCR, but I had to watch them to make sure they really were gay pron. I mean what if the previous owner labeled them gay pron to keep people from watching super awesome hetero pron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy53002 View Post
    Did you get screwed on your trade in? That seems like a smokin price.
    I don't think I got screwed on my trade. I traded in a 2013 Ford Raptor, and They gave me $1800 less than what I bought it for new. I only had it for 10 months and I thought that was a VERY fair amount of depreciation and kick in the shorts for changing my mind so quick on the vehicle. I was very pleased with how it kept it's value, and I ended up not having to pay any money at all for my new truck, win win for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sparling View Post
    Who said anything about being enlightened? You posted a graph that means nothing in the real world. What the truck gets to the wheels is important.
    I understand the point you are trying to make, but there is a single flaw in your posts and that is your reliance on what the vehicle puts to the wheels, or rather "chassis dyno's". All Dyno's read different, even dyno's of the same brand if they are calibrated differently. The graph you posted is a great comparison of the two trucks if they were run back to back on the same dyno (which I assume they were) with the same weather conditions. The chart you reference is a good comparison, but the ecoboost still makes 10% more torque, which is what will effect a "butt dyno".
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